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Old 09-09-2008, 11:24 AM   #51
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re: Car to motorcycle oil filters conversion

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price diff isnt that big of a deal. shoot how much is ur bike worth to u? id rather use dealer or kn&n

its not so much the price .....if you would look at the specs... rotella oil and purlator oil filters are much better for your engine.... less problems down the road
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:25 PM   #52
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I'm going to give it a shot too. Very helpful Info!
What Fram/ Mobile 1 filter would I use for my 06 cbr 600?
Where do you know from that the thread pattern fits?
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Old 09-21-2009, 06:59 AM   #53
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I'm going to give it a shot too. Very helpful Info!
What Fram/ Mobile 1 filter would I use for my 06 cbr 600?
Where do you know from that the thread pattern fits?
About 2.5 inches long.
  • Purolator Pure One PL14612, about $6.
  • Mobil M1-108, about $12.
    Made by Champion.
  • Bosch 3300, about $6.
    Made by Champion.
  • Wal-Mart SuperTech ST6607
    Made by Champion.
About 3.25 inches long.
  • Purolator Pure One PL14610, about $6.
  • Mobil 1 M1-110, about $10.
    Made by Champion.
  • Bosch 3323, about $6.
    Made By Champion.
  • WalMart SuperTech ST7317,
    about $2. Made by Champion.
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Re: Car to motorcycle oil filters conversion

ok so i have a question?? forget about how long you use your oil for. Now lets get to reality.

How high does a car motor turn??
How high does a motor cycle motor turn??

now you think that the oils are different huh, i wonder why???

ill just say this if the oil is made to specifications how does car oil makes it better when the motors are different??

"designed for sport bikes. Most of these bikes have multi-cylinder/multi-valve engines and use a common sump, which means the engine oil lubricates the engine, transmission and wet clutch. "

with this statement ENGINE CAR OIL IS DIFFERENT FROM A MOTORCYCLE ONE.

ohh and for your info, rotella is used the most to break in period of engine but not for a constant usage.
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Re: Car to motorcycle oil filters conversion

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ok so i have a question?? forget about how long you use your oil for. Now lets get to reality.

How high does a car motor turn??
How high does a motor cycle motor turn??

now you think that the oils are different huh, i wonder why???

ill just say this if the oil is made to specifications how does car oil makes it better when the motors are different??

"designed for sport bikes. Most of these bikes have multi-cylinder/multi-valve engines and use a common sump, which means the engine oil lubricates the engine, transmission and wet clutch. "

with this statement ENGINE CAR OIL IS DIFFERENT FROM A MOTORCYCLE ONE.

ohh and for your info, rotella is used the most to break in period of engine but not for a constant usage.
Lets look at the facts
1 Shell rotella is aproved for turbocharged diesel engines. The turbochatger spins at about 60K rpm and glows red hot. Severe service to say the least. Diesel engines have compression starting at 18:1. With turbocharging the compression is raised further. Diesel engines are harder on the lower end than regular gas engines due to the compression.
2 My motorcycle manual does not call for a motorcycle specific oil. It gives a rating for the recomended oil to use. This recomended rating coincides with a car rated oil, therefore those oils are approved by the bike manufacturer to be used in that bike.
3 There are too many users of car oil and filters (with no issues) in their bikes to be discounted simply because some oil companies slap motorcycle usage label on the product and tell us to buy their more expensive product.
4 With a bypass filter there are many trucks running their oil past the 100K mark on one oil change. Some additives need to be replaced and the oil is tested periodically. We change the oil too frequently in our bikes.
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Use whatever makes you happy. Modern bike engines will not self destruct regardless of what oil you use
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:27 PM   #56
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Re: Car to motorcycle oil filters conversion

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It has nothing to do with cheap as the car filters are of a higher quality than the motorcycle filters. Same with car oil which consistantly gets rated better than motorcycle only oil. Do some research.
car oil friction modifiers which can eat up ur clutch and leave ur bike
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Re: Car to motorcycle oil filters conversion

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Lets look at the facts
1 Shell rotella is aproved for turbocharged diesel engines. The turbochatger spins at about 60K rpm and glows red hot. Severe service to say the least. Diesel engines have compression starting at 18:1. With turbocharging the compression is raised further. Diesel engines are harder on the lower end than regular gas engines due to the compression.
2 My motorcycle manual does not call for a motorcycle specific oil. It gives a rating for the recomended oil to use. This recomended rating coincides with a car rated oil, therefore those oils are approved by the bike manufacturer to be used in that bike.
3 There are too many users of car oil and filters (with no issues) in their bikes to be discounted simply because some oil companies slap motorcycle usage label on the product and tell us to buy their more expensive product.
4 With a bypass filter there are many trucks running their oil past the 100K mark on one oil change. Some additives need to be replaced and the oil is tested periodically. We change the oil too frequently in our bikes.
And finally:
Use whatever makes you happy. Modern bike engines will not self destruct regardless of what oil you use

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1. the turbo charger spins at 60k more or less and it may get to about 1500 degrees at the most at the center of the wheel shaft. (steady non moving part like a crank, bearing, valves, pistons etc ) the thicker the worst it is, then the motor the highest will spin is at what 5k tops, umm ok.
all your moving parts need lubrication some more than others but who cares if your oil is to thin, to thick or is if design for a F16 fighter plain or for a scotter oil is oil, lets all put car oil is better. thats the best concept ever.

2. so the same oil you use on the motor of your diessel is the same one you put on your car transmission???

maybe on a ducati being dry you could get away but not on a system that your transmission, clutch and motor use the same clutch.
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Old 09-21-2009, 03:40 PM   #58
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Re: Car to motorcycle oil filters conversion

just asked a master ase certified master technician that was the answer i got
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1. the turbo charger spins at 60k more or less and it may get to about 1500 degrees at the most at the center of the wheel shaft. (steady non moving part like a crank, bearing, valves, pistons etc ) the thicker the worst it is, then the motor the highest will spin is at what 5k tops, umm ok.
all your moving parts need lubrication some more than others but who cares if your oil is to thin, to thick or is if design for a F16 fighter plain or for a scotter oil is oil, lets all put car oil is better. thats the best concept ever.

2. so the same oil you use on the motor of your diessel is the same one you put on your car transmission???

maybe on a ducati being dry you could get away but not on a system that your transmission, clutch and motor use the same clutch.
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just asked a master ase certified master technician that was the answer i got

so you are saying what??? lol
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so you are saying what??? lol
that car oil is not motorcycle oil and should not be put in motorcycles cmon u dont use ur toothbrush to brush ur hair im just sayin it might be the same but it aint usin it would u use car oil in ur racebike?
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