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Old 11-04-2009, 10:44 AM   #71
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Re: Car to motorcycle oil filters conversion

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car oil friction modifiers which can eat up ur clutch and leave ur bike

that's why Scudman mentioned earlier in the thread that you have to use an oil that DOES NOT have "ENERGY CONSERVING" in the donut


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Old 11-04-2009, 10:48 AM   #72
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1. the turbo charger spins at 60k more or less and it may get to about 1500 degrees at the most at the center of the wheel shaft. (steady non moving part like a crank, bearing, valves, pistons etc ) the thicker the worst it is, then the motor the highest will spin is at what 5k tops, umm ok.
all your moving parts need lubrication some more than others but who cares if your oil is to thin, to thick or is if design for a F16 fighter plain or for a scotter oil is oil, lets all put car oil is better. thats the best concept ever.

2. so the same oil you use on the motor of your diessel is the same one you put on your car transmission???

maybe on a ducati being dry you could get away but not on a system that your transmission, clutch and motor use the same clutch.
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just asked a master ase certified master technician that was the answer i got

Guess what...I AM a MASTER AUTOMOTIVE TECHNICIAN and MASTER MEDIUM AND HEAVY TRUCK TECHNICIAN and have been for 20 years and I use the same oil and filters Scudman uses and have had NO problems.
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Old 11-04-2009, 01:03 PM   #73
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Re: Car to motorcycle oil filters conversion

Not bashing the rotella. Promoting Motul for sure. Yes we sell, but we use it in our race bikes which is currently leading ccs. We have no engine problems or oil related problems. I wouldn't make specific comments on an auto product as I don't really address it. Their engineers aren't looking for bike products.

I also prefer looking for the JASO over the API, but regardless, Motul Factory Line can have running oil temp of 365 deg when valve guides and sleeves removed. ...over 500 deg before it vaporizes!That's pretty awesome. Like I said, it's your money. If it is working, use it. As far as I know, there's no MOTORCYCLE research from Shell. Could be wrong, but the motul as well as others is bike specific.

Good motorcycle oil will leave virtually no burnt deposits on valves or pistons. Especially ones designed for bikes with integrated gear box, wet clutch etc. As far as motul, they've been making bike specific oils much long time! Good luck.
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Re: Car to motorcycle oil filters conversion

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Not bashing the rotella. Promoting Motul for sure. Yes we sell, but we use it in our race bikes which is currently leading ccs. We have no engine problems or oil related problems. I wouldn't make specific comments on an auto product as I don't really address it. Their engineers aren't looking for bike products.

I also prefer looking for the JASO over the API, but regardless, Motul Factory Line can have running oil temp of 365 deg when valve guides and sleeves removed. ...over 500 deg before it vaporizes!That's pretty awesome. Like I said, it's your money. If it is working, use it. As far as I know, there's no MOTORCYCLE research from Shell. Could be wrong, but the motul as well as others is bike specific.

Good motorcycle oil will leave virtually no burnt deposits on valves or pistons. Especially ones designed for bikes with integrated gear box, wet clutch etc. As far as motul, they've been making bike specific oils much long time! Good luck.
No question that The Motul is a great oil and it is motorcycle specific. It is expensive for sure. If I would be a good enough rider in a racing series where that extra 5% is needed and maybe makes a difference then I would consider using it. For my type of riding (street /track)the cost of expensive motorcycle oil is not justified. I only have 30K on my 900RR and no sludge deposits in the engine head. My diesel with 100K had no sludge deposits either. Jared with over 160K miles on his F4I uses only Mobil1. Yes, his 2nd gear blew at around 140K miles. No sludge reported durring the engine teardown. This is a car specific oil (a good one at that) but not to be used in a VW diesel because it is not rated for the heavy duty of a TDI. Rotella is rated for the TDI.
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:27 PM   #76
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Re: Car to motorcycle oil filters conversion

I hear you. I tell my guys to look at it like this...How many oil changes are you doing a year? On MY personal bikes, about 5. Then about another 5 for race bikes. But my average guy is doing about 3 to 4 a year. Saving $20-$40 a year, I recommend the better oils...that Rotella may be, but again, max confidence for me is Motul. They have tremendous RnD for their products including WSBK and moto GP running EXACTLY same oil as you can purchase.

My cruiser (roadstar) runs Castrol Act Evo, runs like a champ and retail is only $25 in oil!
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5000, never would I go that long on any oil. I am a stickler for over changing my oil, I try to change every 1000 miles. That is me though, I know I over do it, but thats the way I play.
yo i will change your oil for free if i can keep your 1000 mile used oil ( i'm serious )
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Mobil 1 or K&N oil filters FTW.
MOBIL 1 ,,,AND K&N,,, are the same filter ( made by same people ) so are alot of AC DELCO ,,, filters oh and some SUPERTECH ,,, ((((( FRAM sucks ))))) they bleed back or back flow whatever you wanna call it
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The K&N filters were not rated highly for their filtering efficiency. The nut is cool but I rather have a better filter and use a hose clamp with safety wire. Also the nut is a bitch to safety wire as it is hollow and the safety wire does not go through without hanging up. If you want to save money the Walmart SuperTech filter is a good filter at $2.5 each.
Some SuperTech filters are the same as K&N ( FYI )
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well i dont have a ducati but let me correct your knowledge about bikes DUCATI uses DRY clutches, meaning they separete from the transmission. now if im not wrong CLUTCHS in all the world are part of transmission so.... if by transmission you only mean gears, syncro and shaft in the tranny then i see where you get your deductions from.

then you really have no knowledge about moving parts, well here it goes.

the shaft on a turbo does not play around, is steady and spins on its axis, now a bearing, crank, springs etc have to really get lubed to they dont have any friction. just so you know the oil lines on the turbo hold pressure and no science there, pressure maintains flow and pretty much always lubed. the other moving parts on the motor need the oil to stick as much as possible, create a film to protect it and hope it holds and last for a long time to maintain the parts.

dont know if that made to much sense to you but i know what im saying.

i dont know what you mean about the 500 degrees more to melt alum but your bike headers get as hot as 1600 degrees too so.... hmmm ok.

jet oil was a sarcasm ;) lol

either way, i dont care what you use, i was just expressing my thoughts, meaing my opinions.

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NOW FOR SOME OF MY OWN INFO .....
you know what i dont feel like writing a ten page essay about how much more i know about oil than probably all of you ...well not all of you !!
I mean for all of you working of expirience ( yall know whats up )
for those of you who love to belive in propaganda ( sheep with credit cards )

i will just say theirs alot of theary behind oil its alot to learn about , trust me

sorry i lost my steam befor i wrote this i felt like i had alot more to say ....

i can answer alot of ????????? ( about oil ) feel free to ask
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yo i will change your oil for free if i can keep your 1000 mile used oil ( i'm serious )

MOBIL 1 ,,,AND K&N,,, are the same filter ( made by same people ) so are alot of AC DELCO ,,, filters oh and some SUPERTECH ,,, ((((( FRAM sucks ))))) they bleed back or back flow whatever you wanna call it

Some SuperTech filters are the same as K&N ( FYI )

ALMOST ALL BIKE TRANSMITIONS ,DO NOT HAVE SYNCROS ( FYI )


NOW FOR SOME OF MY OWN INFO .....
you know what i dont feel like writing a ten page essay about how much more i know about oil than probably all of you ...well not all of you !!
I mean for all of you working of expirience ( yall know whats up )
for those of you who love to belive in propaganda ( sheep with credit cards )

i will just say theirs alot of theary behind oil its alot to learn about , trust me

sorry i lost my steam befor i wrote this i felt like i had alot more to say ....

i can answer alot of ????????? ( about oil ) feel free to ask
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Re: Car to motorcycle oil filters conversion

RotellaT and a purolater pure one oil filter is the best combo in my opinion.
Ive been using RotellaT for a few years and wont go back to anything else
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